The Dark Side (permanent post)

[annathecrow]

Welcome to the Dark Side. This post’s comment section is dedicated to all the angry, inflammatory, defamatory and otherwise outright negative things you might want to express. Not that saying negative things isn’t allowed in the weekly chat corners, but… you know how you sometimes just Have Thoughts about something, and you don’t feel like you can talk about it because everyone around you seems to love it? Those go here.

 

Some rules:

• No personal attacks.
• If you don’t want people replying to you, mention it in the comment.
• Follow the general comm rules.
• …that’s it, I think.

 

Comments

[sathari]

Wow, thanks for a thoughtful and speedy reply!

I love Stover's ROTS novelization as well! Among other things, it gave me one of my core ideas about Anakin, namely that he always thought of the child he and Padme were expecting as a daughter, and wanted it that way. (Anakin was so much my favorite along with Mara Jade for a long time, even though the PT was poorly executed. And then the reboot gave me like a dozen other characters I love as much, and, yeah, that includes his grandson.)

And, yeah, we definitely have different ideas of a happy ending to begin with! As I said elsethread, one of the things I come up with is how the characters have the "oh thank goodness you don't want kids either!" conversation, which is, as you say, on a different side from each other just to begin with.

On a side note, I don't know where you are with liking fic as well as canon, but irnan wrote some amazing "happy Skywalker family" fic ranging from through the PT to what's now Legends. (Here's the link to their tag for SW fic--- I don't think they still write in the fandom any more, but thought I'd share.)

Also they wouldn’t have the burden of being heroes or great expectations.

And here is another big difference in our approaches, because I find it impossible to believe that people would not be looking at the children of heroes and expecting those kids to surpass them--- the expectations would actually be worse for it being (supposedly) a world their parents had saved. "Oh, look, you don't have to go through all the hardships your parents faced! Now be more awesome than they are, have all the accomplishments and none of the flaws!" (Outside of Star Wars, the Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold does a great job with this dynamic, IMO--- the kid whose parents saved the world is looking for ways to live up to and surpass that in his own personal idiom. Another good one for that is Mike Shepard's Kris Longknife series, with the added plus of it being a female protag, and while the first books center on her living male ancestors' legacies, later books have some awesome female ancestors for her as well.)

Not to mention that I'm enough of a casual history nerd that I'm looking at the end of both ROTJ and TROS and going, "Okay, you won the war, now how are you going to win the peace?" (Aaaaand then I deleted a whole bunch of TL;DR about Lando Calrissian as the post-TROS head of galactic government, lol.)

[fleurviolette]

(Dw is acting a bit strange but I’m posting my reply again.)

If only Anakin stayed in the light and Padme stayed alive, they would have raised Luke and Leia on Naboo.

Also, thank you for the rec! :) Yes, I occasionally read either Luke/Mara fanfics or gen time travel fix it fics.

I just try to have fun when creating my next gen ocs. I try not to give them high stakes or have them go through too much angst. Lol it’s just supposed to be lighthearted fun.

Looking back on it now, I personally think RotJ (Episode 6) was a good ending to the saga. Anything after that, it’s kinda stretching it, even though I have enjoyed classic EU stories like the Thrawn Trilogy and The Mandalorian in the Disney era canon.

[sathari]

Oh, wow, all of my various headcanons about Anakin and Padme getting to raise their kids! So many ways that could have gone!

You're welcome for the rec! Based on your comment below, though, I may have to warn you about the comments section of the fics, though I haven't read them in a while--- something that IIRC was getting regularly discussed in the overall fannish environment in which I discovered those fics--- which was around a decade ago--- was that the general fannish vibe was that in canon, Han, Leia and Luke (and Mara) did not spend nearly enough time with each other and their kids and that irnan's fics were part of a fixit-fic environment of giving them... well, basically, the kind of normal, everything's chill, happytimes you've described. So there's a chunk of the fandom that doesn't necessarily see Legends-canon-sequel stories as having been all that wonderful especially for the family Skywalker. (For reference about my particular POV: as I said above, I noped right out of the Legends-canon-sequelverse when the Kevin J. Anderson books started coming, and in fact several friends warned me as a Luke/Mara shipper to back away, and the fics I linked and maybe some others that I don't recall are most of my interaction with Legends-sequelverse.) That said, based on your description of your next-gen oc's as lighthearted fun I think you will enjoy the fics themselves!

Yeah, I can see stopping with ROTJ. NGL, I got a lot of my fannish wishes fulfilled by the new-ST, both in terms of Star Wars specifically and stories generally (see elsethread where I mentioned that to annathecrow) in ways that, frankly, Legends does not do for me, but when I got back into what was then SW canon that decade ago, I was perfectly happy to play around in the PT without much in the way of sequel material.

[fleurviolette]

Interesting. That’s good to know!

The D sequels didn’t really feel like I was watching Star Wars, just some strange and nonsensical alternate universe featuring Star Wars characters. It’s okay tho, at the end of the day, I mainly stick to the core six films as canon, and the classic eu, Filoniverse (extending to the Mandoverse), and the D sequels as alternate universes, but not part of George Lucas’s original story.

Meanwhile I did watch the cutscenes of KOTOR recently. It’s pretty good.