Good points. I haven't realized when Ben was supposed to have been born - if that's the case, it does make the whole ST situation that much more believable.
Although, I do understand why people don't like the idea of Han/Leia being bad parents, or Luke a bad teacher. It's realistic, yeah, but it's not something they want to watch. I'm like this with characters I really love as well - the only reason why I don't mind it in ST is because I'm not on that level with the OT trio. The role of fiction, wish-fulfilment, etc etc... I sense an interesting thought hiding in here about the need of a reader vs realism vs ideas what makes for a good story, but I don't have the brainspace to formulate it right now. *notes it for later*
Also, thanks for reading material: I've looked up the Four Horsemen and I've saved the positive disintegration to read later - I've read a few paragraphs from the intro and the outlined concepts are very intriguing.
Ben/Rey:
Thank you for the insight into your reasons for liking this ship. I consciously avoid it as much as I can, but the unintended consequence of that is that I have no idea why people ship it, aside from it being canon.
As for how people talk about it online... well. I have been openly and vocally bitter about it myself. It's really hard not to be, when it's something this emotionally charged for me. I do want to try harder to keep it to spaces where it belongs, though - my own blog, where it's only us haters, etc. Maybe having a specific fan in mind might help me reconsider before I spill my vitriol in shared spaces :)
The comm:
I'm glad to hear that the comm works for you! So far it's been going well, and I'll do my best for that to continue. I'm still nervous, we haven't really had any big storms yet - this thread is probably the closest I've seen to a conflict of opinions - but I do hope. (This year I've seen a beloved event go down in flames for completely baffling reasons. Fandom-done-wrong is a scary place.)
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Date: 2021-09-18 07:38 am (UTC)Han, Leia, Luke and parenting:
Good points. I haven't realized when Ben was supposed to have been born - if that's the case, it does make the whole ST situation that much more believable.
Although, I do understand why people don't like the idea of Han/Leia being bad parents, or Luke a bad teacher. It's realistic, yeah, but it's not something they want to watch. I'm like this with characters I really love as well - the only reason why I don't mind it in ST is because I'm not on that level with the OT trio. The role of fiction, wish-fulfilment, etc etc... I sense an interesting thought hiding in here about the need of a reader vs realism vs ideas what makes for a good story, but I don't have the brainspace to formulate it right now. *notes it for later*
Also, thanks for reading material: I've looked up the Four Horsemen and I've saved the positive disintegration to read later - I've read a few paragraphs from the intro and the outlined concepts are very intriguing.
Ben/Rey:
Thank you for the insight into your reasons for liking this ship. I consciously avoid it as much as I can, but the unintended consequence of that is that I have no idea why people ship it, aside from it being canon.
As for how people talk about it online... well. I have been openly and vocally bitter about it myself. It's really hard not to be, when it's something this emotionally charged for me. I do want to try harder to keep it to spaces where it belongs, though - my own blog, where it's only us haters, etc. Maybe having a specific fan in mind might help me reconsider before I spill my vitriol in shared spaces :)
The comm:
I'm glad to hear that the comm works for you! So far it's been going well, and I'll do my best for that to continue. I'm still nervous, we haven't really had any big storms yet - this thread is probably the closest I've seen to a conflict of opinions - but I do hope. (This year I've seen a beloved event go down in flames for completely baffling reasons. Fandom-done-wrong is a scary place.)